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SCARBOROUGH Christian Centre, on Castle Road, is to host a conference as part of a groundbreaking initiative to reach men with the Christian message and form a band of brothers to counter the exodus of men from the British Church.
The national charities New Wine and Christian Vision for Men have formed a partnership to stage events with the aim of attracting men back to Christianity. The partnership was struck on the back of alarming statistics showing a vast exodus of men from church in the last 15 years.
Experts in the field of evangelism and male spirituality are leading seminars and talks at venues throughout the UK.
The Rev Carl Beech, CVM director, said: “Our movement exists to see millions of men in this country encounter the message of Jesus. Over the last 20 years 38 per cent of believing men left the church. The decline is pretty terminal and in 30 years time there could be zero men left in church communities in the UK.
“We are hugely excited to be in partnership with New Wine. We both have the same vision of seeing local churches transform the UK and we both see reaching men as fundamental to seeing that vision fulfilled.”
The Scarborough conference will be on Saturday from 9.30am to 4.30pm. It will include seminars on Mentoring Men, Street Angels and The Code.
Speakers will include Dean Gray and Mark Tanner, the warden of Cranmer Hall in Durham.
As a youngster, Mr Gray was involved with gangs and alcohol abuse. He joined the Army when he was 16 and became a Christian at the age of 24.
Since leaving the Army he has worked as an architectural technician, owned a construction business, worked in prison ministry, and has been a project manager in Afghanistan. He is now the managing director of operations for CVM.
Places at the conference can be booked by contacting Nick Welford on 07528 550240.
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NeddyF
Sunday, February 12, 2012 at 05:46 PM#38 I have to say I am absolutely stunned at your 'summary'. Women were and are not banned from events - events are put on to cater for different groups - women, youth, men, over 50's, children etc all the time and not just by churches! It's interesting that it's the third time I have mentioned this and yet you haven't responded! Yet I am the one who is apparently 'not answering questions'. If I'm honest it doesn't seem like you want a chat, but just to put your own point of view across time and time again - like your comment about street angels replacing policemen, which is frankly absurd. I have no idea what you mean by the Christian right but I wonder what upsets you more - the fact that this event was on or the fact it made it to the paper? I suppose if it hadn't been in the paper you would have just dragged out your 'hidden agenda' rhetoric even more forcibly. At the end of the day if you can't see a reason or need for anyone (again not just the church) to have events aimed at specific groups for specific reasons then I guess our 'chat' is over.
TSnf
Sunday, February 12, 2012 at 04:53 PM#33, I have to say, your memory is absolutely phenomenal, unless you keep copies of everything that I have ever posted, (or not posted too it seems). As it is apparently the "Open Season" for British Nationalists, I am now starting to wonder where my other forum "friends", such as "Seaview", "One of Each" and that "Scummy" character are? Perhaps you could enlighten me? It would be nice if they could join in as well, then we could all have a really good discussion about the state of our country!!
I read the news today, oh boy
Sunday, February 12, 2012 at 04:44 PM37 Thanks for the chat, but I hardly think we have scratched the surface of the problem here. An organisation that thinks banning women from its events is acceptable in 2012, the same orgainsation that is replacing our policemen with these unaccountable "Street Angels", we are seeing a brief glimpse of the future as planned by the Christian Right for this town and the country. I think these people need to be exposed in the media for what they are, far more dangerous than any terrorists from "another world religion" in my eyes.
NeddyF
Sunday, February 12, 2012 at 02:57 PM#35 thanks for your comments. I appreciate your open mindedness! #36 I'm really sorry that you feel the way you do. I tried to address your questions, but it's hard to do so when you appear to just want to talk about the event in negative terms. I'm sorry you don't like the idea of the event and I'm sorry you don't 'get' it, but I'm not sorry for my beliefs or for holding the event in the first place. As I have already said it was an event that was aimed at men (by the way this idea was supported by the woman who were more than happy to see the event on and even volunteered on the day to help with stewarding etc...) and so it was advertised for men. Again as I have already said plenty of events are aimed at specific groups - youth events, under 18 nights at clubs, etc.. I assume you have no problem with there events. I'm sorry you feel I haven't answered your questions I feel like I have so I guess we'll just have to disagree. I assume when you suggest 'these people' are taking over from the police in this town you are talking (again rather dramatically) about the street angels. The street angels didn't organise or run the event they just gave one of the talks about how it was formed and the success they have seen. I guess this is all redundant now as the event is done and was thoroughly enjoyed by all who attended.
I read the news today, oh boy
Sunday, February 12, 2012 at 10:12 AM35 Well, nobody asked you to join in. Now, Neddy F, women are excluded from this event, yes? Does the same go for gay men? Any other groups excluded? Before anyone asks does this matter, remember these people are taking over from the police in this town.
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Saturday, February 11, 2012 at 07:53 PM#34 Yes, yes, whatever. I can't be bothered engaging with this any more. This kind of debate will go nowhere if you're going to continue to be narrow minded and have'nt enough consideration for the topic. You've also got hold of the wrong end of the stick. If you're a woman, you're one of the most chauvinistic I've ever come accross.
I read the news today, oh boy
Saturday, February 11, 2012 at 07:13 PM29 "Jews, Muslims, Sikhs and Hindu's ... all sperate genders for one reason or another." Do they? Well, if you say so, I'm sure you can quote examples. However, I suspect they are not doing so in "SCARBOROUGH Christian Centre, on Castle Road", hence the reason I am not "on thier cases". I find the idea of all these born-again Christian men agonising over their sexuality in an environment from which women are excluded as laughable, no wonder all these "believing men" are leaving the "British Church". As for the "in secrecy" bit, I suspect they are hiding their true intentions behind meaningless cliches in their press statements and as you say this is a comments section so I am asking questions (and getting no answers) but in your view this labels me as paranoid. Well, the more I get devious and evasive answers, the more I will ask the questions, you may describe that as paranoia if you wish but if it scares you that is not my problem.
heavensentmum
Saturday, February 11, 2012 at 05:59 PM#32 You are making it too easy, 'Fascist' When have I ever called anyone that? You on the other hand have said 'I have never abused anybody,' and 'rarely respond to any abuse directed at me, preferring generally, to ignore it!' 'deported back to where he came from' and as someone else said 'When Mist got done there was no suggestion then about anyone being sent back to "where he came from". 'The fact remains that certain crimes, esp. knife and gun crimes, are more prevalent in "enriched areas" and committed by blacks' No, Whites still hold that title and again you absence was noticed on the Eastfield knife story that was open for comment. We all know why don't we. How could I forget, they are just your thoughts and if I don't like it, tough. I will let other interpret that last one after they have taken into account you responses to me on this story and the gems I have added in this comment.
TSnf
Saturday, February 11, 2012 at 04:59 PM#31, no I do not "call anyone who isn't white and British or straight", but people such as yourself seem to make a point of calling anyone who speaks up for white British or straight folk "Fascist" or "racist". Why?? Racism, for example, cuts both ways, so would you call Asians or blacks who racially abuse white folk (and yes, it does happen!) these names? I rather think not. As for Scots and independence, I don't see a problem with that at present as, we are all basically the same race, white European. All races, whether black, Asian or whatever, should treasure their cultures and traditions. I don't hate anybody because of their race, whatever it may be, but I do hate those who would try to degrade OUR race, culture and history in the vile name of "multi culturalism".
heavensentmum
Saturday, February 11, 2012 at 03:52 PM#24 I thought you said you were intelligent. You call anyone who isn’t white and British, or straight.. I call your actions? I wait with interest for your comments on people from Scotland when they gain independence.
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Saturday, February 11, 2012 at 09:41 AM...and to what degree do you feel this church is conducting its 'business' in secrecy? There's an article and a lengthy comment explaining what its about. To futher add to your apparent scariness, you seem to find the council's antics amusing!
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Saturday, February 11, 2012 at 09:25 AMJews, Muslims, Sikhs and Hindu's being the obvious ones all sperate genders for one reason or another. Are you on thier cases too? There's a name for people like that... How does the phrase 'Biblical man' differ in sentiment from 'Literary man' in a church context?
I read the news today, oh boy
Saturday, February 11, 2012 at 07:17 AM26 Ha! If "another world religion" were staging a similar event, with women not welcome, there would be outrage in the town, as well you know. And "...the idea of a Biblical man" is not what I call completely ordinary every-day English. Funny how we can all ask very rude questions about the way (say) the council conduct their business in secrecy and we all have a laugh about it, but as soon as you ask questions about this event the old "you're paranoid" insult gets wheeled out.
NeddyF
Friday, February 10, 2012 at 11:02 PM#25 it's not a case of banning it's just that they haven't been invited and if they turned up we would politely explain the nature of the event. Would you have an issue if it were a youth event? Or an event for over 50's? I honest can see the problem. The issues that will crop up will be looking at the idea of a Biblical man, how Christian men deal with issues like pornography, masturbation and the sex trade, all of which women may want input in but in a same sex environment it is easier to talk honestly and openly.
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Friday, February 10, 2012 at 08:08 PM#25 I'm noy even anything to do with this event but your chauvinism and paranoia is so horribly apparent. You are the scary one. The language he's using is completely ordinary every-day English. You seem to be obsessed however and I dread to wonder whether you'd have a similar public 'Conversation with another world religion's events.
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