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Published Date: 04 October 2008
PUBLICANS have hit back at council claims the smoking ban has been a success in Scarborough.
The borough council's environment manager Steve Reynolds told the latest meeting of the corporate strategy overview and scrutiny committee that anti-smoking legislation had been successful in town, although it had also led to an increase in littering.

However, his words have angered local licensees, who say the ban has cost them business.

Kath Duffy, landlady of the Newcastle Packet and president of the Scarborough branch of the Licensed Victuallers' Association, said: "The council might think the ban is wonderful but we don't. Pubs have lost a lot of trade, the summer's not been too bad but the winter when people have to stand out in the cold will really hurt us. We saw a definite drop in trade last winter. People just aren't coming to pubs like they used to before the ban."

Laurin Mainprize, landlady of the Britannia, said: "I reckon business is down 40 per cent on last year. Smoking isn't illegal and people shouldn't have to stand outside in the cold to smoke. Why can't we have smoking and non-smoking establishments so people can make up their own minds?

"The local pub's a dying breed and the ban's one of the main reasons."

And customers agree.

Lindsay White, a regular in the Black Swan, said: "My husband's a smoker and he just won't come to the pub any more – he says there's no pleasure if he can't have a smoke with his pint."

Her friend Janine Welsh added: "I don't smoke but I still think it's wrong – in winter it's absolutely freezing, why would anyone want to stand out in that?"

The Campaign for Real Ale says 36 pubs close every week in the UK, and though the credit crunch and cheap supermarket beer prices are also causes of closures, landlords are adamant the smoking ban is a major factor.

Campaigning group Freedom to Choose has raised a million-name petition to fight the new law, which was introduced on July 1 2007. Its aim is ultimately to collect between five and seven million signatures.

The group's Helen Daniels told the Evening News it was not just non-smokers who objected to the ban.

"We're not a pro-smoking organisation – in fact a third of our members are non-smokers who think the ban is unfair.

"I cannot agree the ban has been hailed as a success – business failures, unemployment, increased stress, denormalisation of citizens, community groups broken up, the elderly in total social isolation – to name but a few effects of the ban.

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  • Last Updated: 04 October 2008 8:15 AM
  • Source: Scarborough Evening News
  • Location: Scarborough
 
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Seaho,

Seamer 05/10/2008 09:09:33
I used to visit Pubs regularly but now find the atmosphere so bland that I don't go anymore.

The smokeyness was part and parcel of the places.
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Against Bereaurcracy.,

05/10/2008 09:27:28
Another day and SBC in the thick of yet another controversy, when will they learn, they are not always right, in fact they are very rarely right but flap their lips they must, it would be nice occasionally if they would engage their brain before putting their mouth into gear and who really gives a damn what they think, certainly no one sane.

As for the smoking debate I am an advocate of live and let live, or choose to kill yourself, whatever but do not endanger others lives.
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CJL,

West Yorkshire 05/10/2008 09:56:14
I am not a smoker, but I do find the ban has changed the atmosphere in pubs for the worse. I agree with a no smoking policy where people are eating but a 'fag' with a pint down at the local was a lot of peoples only form of socialising.
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english charlie,

Little Britain 05/10/2008 10:10:03
To anybody who hate drinking and pubs, the smoking ban has been a great success. The ban has not made any difference to the number of smokers, but has caused thousands of pubs to close and put thousands in the DOLE queue
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DaveA,

Room101 05/10/2008 10:22:40
"May 7th 1945: Lord Haw Haw comes onto the radio to proclaim a great Nazi victory in Europe".

The acts of the matter are in 2005 106 pubs closed, in 2006 206 pubs closed. One year of the smoking ban over 2000 pubs have closed leaving 78,000 unemployed. Yes it has been a success for the jackbooted jobsworths at the council who thnk black is white and white is black but for millions of people it is at best a massive inconvenince or the terminaion of their social life. Legislating on private property against a perfectly legal substance has massive implications for human rights in this country too.

Dr Josef Goebels could not of spun it better.



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Mike Jones,

Scarborough 05/10/2008 11:02:13
I would like to know if Kath Duffy has shares in the SEN - she gets rolled out that oftern, I am wondering why you bother writing a story about the smoking ban, why not just give a whole page over to Kath Duffy, thats what you seem to do every other week
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Shrek,

05/10/2008 11:04:00
Oh not again, perhaps Kath if you are not happy you should get out of the trade.

I think its more to do with how little money people have, and its cheaper to drink at home. I am not saying pubs are ripping customers off far from it more likely its down to tax and the fact mots of us dont have much money left by the time we pay our fuel, food etc
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TimTam,

Barrowcliffe 05/10/2008 11:04:38
OMG - Kath duffy again, can you not stop going on Kath, Scarborough has had enough, and shame on you Scarborough Evening News Giving this Woman Free Publicity, I bet if it was someone else they would not get so much

Enough is Enough make the Scarborough Evening News a Kath Duffy Free Zone
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Scottie2Hottie,

Scarborough 05/10/2008 11:09:58
Please Kath Duffy will you just shut up and go away, there are more problems more important at the moment like, The rising cost of Fuel, Gas, Electric and Food

You seem to be in the wrong trade Kath, after all your always moaning on its simple do something else, and is very clear your not popular in Scarborough, so why not move as well

And Scarborough Evening News, can you stop giving over newspaper space to this woman, it does not help
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english charlie,

Little Britain 05/10/2008 11:29:23
From the last few comments, I got the impression that the story was ONLY about Kath Duffy, but after reading the story again I find that it is NOT. She is only ONE fighting for her business and others are trying to help her and the other thousands of pubs and clubs that are suffering since the smoking ban.
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