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Published Date: 13 May 2008
A ROW over a controversial gipsy site looks set to flare up again at a public meeting tomorrow.
Angry residents have called for an explanation as to why a planning application still remains in place for a gipsy site in Stoney Haggs Road, despite Scarborough councillors opting for a different site at High Eastfield.

Councillors Lucy Haycock, Helen Mallory and David Jeffels are expected to attend the Seamer Youth Centre meeting at 7pm.

Cllr Haycock said: "There are a lot of people asking questions about the Stoney Haggs site and the fact that it is going through planning.

"Stoney Haggs is not available because it is planted with barley.

"The farmer was not prepared to relinquish his field. It is not able to be acquired.

"People are confused that there are two sites on the table. If the one at Eastfield is available, why is the Stoney Haggs one going to planning?"

"We will try to explain to people what is happening at the moment and advise on the way forward."

Scarborough Council says it had still not been able to confirm the use of the Eastfield site with the owner.

Head of environmental services, Andy Skelton, said: "It was determined that Stoney Haggs would be used as the site. At that point we submitted a planning application. We were then offered the land at High Eastfield which we are also pursuing."

He said if the council was able to negotiate the use of the land at High Eastfield, there was no future guarantee they could use it in years to come, so they were "continuing to pursue the site at Stoney Haggs as a precautionary measure."

Cllr Haycock said she would continue to fight against the proposals for both gipsy sites.

She said: "There is a lot of concern about this and residents will be affected by it. There is already a huge amount of traffic going up and down the A64 with the new park and ride being developed. There is also the effect on the open countryside to consider.

"We should not be destroying our crops in a year when there is a shortage, to accommodate travellers or anybody else."

Cllr Haycock said there was also concern about the effect of added traffic travelling along Stoney Haggs Road.

She said: "The area is already an accident blackspot.

"People from the north of the town use these roads as a short cut to the business parks, and now the park and ride is being built which is making it even busier, so it really doesn't make sense to put a travellers' site in this area."

Local authorities are required by law to produce a gipsy and traveller accommodation strategy and demonstrate that adequate provision is made for them.

A team inspected potential sites last year. Other possible sites were at The Dell in Seamer, Musham Bank and The Mere.

Travellers have gathered for years on a field between the Seamer Carr rubbish tip and Dunslow Road but that has been bought up for development.

Last year they used a site at Musham Bank, but it was flooded after torrential rain and would cost about £795,000 to level and drain the land to make it suitable.

What do you think? You can leave your commments below.

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  • Last Updated: 13 May 2008 9:28 AM
  • Source: Scarborough Evening News
  • Location: Scarborough
 
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Amaroo,

Scarborough 13/05/2008 11:54:38
It is hard to believe that the Stoney Haggs site is still being contemplated. Do these councillors ever use the roads in that area? If yes, then they should know full well that it is not the area for a Travellers camp site. I get that uneasy feeling that as long as it is 'NIMBY' the relevant councillors voting on this subject will vote anything in.

It is dangereous enough now for traffic let alone the likelyhood of horses being extra to the dangers along with everything else illegal these Travellers do.

If the Stoney Haggs proposed site is not within the Manor of Seamer then why is it being processed ?

If the Manor of Seamer is represented by the 3 councillors who will attend this meeting in Seamer then I bet they will be 3 happy bunnies if they can keep the Travellers camp outside their patch !!!.

Why is land not being looked at within the Manor of Seamer that can accomodate whoever for Seamer Fair.

It is not Stoney Haggs Fair or Eastfield Fair or Musham Bank Fair. If it cannot be held within Manor of Seamer then the Lord of the Manor should look into rescinding the Fair.
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Enquiries@raincliffehotel.co.uk,

scarborough 13/05/2008 20:42:49
Well the problem is where do we put them,my personal opinion,if i was allowed one is,they also bring a lot of other baggage with them,trouble seems to raise its ugly head,and crime rates raise,i am not pointing the finger,this is well documented facts from other areas,not all gypsy sites are the same,one near my haulage yard in hull is terrible,we have had our yard broken into on several occasions,trailers cut,also our warehouse broken into,yes i know,iknow,its the you can not prove it,well we could,we have them on camera,also we have locked them in our sheds,the police come,tell us of for imprisoning them,they take em down the nick,never hear owt of the police,gypsy folk walk back past our yard,we then get even more abuse,lets hope scarborough gets a good crowd,sorry amaroo,i am in total aggrement with you,i wish my english was better,
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1007,

14/05/2008 08:34:39
It will be interesting to see if Haycock can last the whole meeting and keep her toys in the pram!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Lady Taurus ,

Scarborough 14/05/2008 11:05:55
Too late #3 she has resigned, or been told she can't switch parties and has lost her post.

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mick eastfield,

16/05/2008 19:26:50
Why should it be in eastfield ?
I'll tell you why, because they have been offered an easy free option by a kind farmer, who doesn't live on the eastfield farm, he is more worried about his more valuable farm in seamer.
What about the proposed beauty spot and picnic areas that were going up there behind bluebell wood? would be a great view.
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castle crusader.,

scarborough 17/05/2008 10:20:05
I once spoke to a gent called Leo Wilson, who lived in Scarborough he was a sort of spokesperson for the travellers, that attended the 'Seamer horse fair'.

He told me "we dont mind where we are put but it is a pity Seamer residents no longer want us in their area for one week a year, when Seamer was a mainly a farming community it was a great fair, plenty of horse trading, plenty of money spent in local hostleries and shops, it's a pity that now it's a residential area and they want us out, but I suppose thats progress".

I think his last comment said it all really "townies will never understand country ways, it's sad but true".
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Lady Taurus ,

Scarborough 18/05/2008 17:07:26
#6 Leo was a Romany gypsy and after he read one of my letters in the paper supporting the gypsy way of life he rung me up, to thank me.

We talked at length and we both were of the same opinion that it is all the mess these new travellers leave that upset the residents in the area they have been in.

Leo did try to speak to them about the mess and he issued them with bin bags to use he even told me he gone and cleared up the site after they left.

We should maybe ask how Appleby cope when they have the gypsy fair there, as that has gone on for years. So they must have some advice to give SBC.
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castle crusader.,

scarborough 23/05/2008 09:13:24
This ere idea by cllr simson to make Eastfield a town could be agood idea, if SBC realise the the seamer horse fair is to be the Eastfield town horse fair, they will want to nick it and put it in Sca town centre, along with a public work of art, a statue of a horse of course.
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