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Work 'could cost nearky £20million'

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Published Date: 17 June 2009
WORK to shore up the cliff top at Scarborough's Knipe Point could cost nearly £20 million according to a new report – which warns of "further movement" of the landslip.
The document suggests that consultation with interested parties begin immediately so that work can start on safeguarding the 56 bungalows still at risk of slipping into the sea, along with a section of the A165 Filey Road.

It will be discussed by Scarborough council chiefs next week, examining the options for stabilising the cliff near Cayton Bay.

But one resident does not believe the council will spend so much money to safeguard his home.

John Robinson said: "I don't think they'll throw that sort of money at Knipe Point, and I think my neighbours would agree. Nobody's been helping us and we're not being told anything."

Read the full story on page one of Wednesday's Scarborough Evening News

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  • Last Updated: 17 June 2009 9:00 AM
  • Source: Scarborough Evening News
  • Location: Scarborough
 
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Against Bereaurcracy.,

17/06/2009 09:43:13
John Robinson said: Nobody's been helping us and we're not being told anything.

It will be discussed by Scarborough council chiefs next week.

There you go John R, I bet you are feeling better already knowing SBCs cabinet is on the case.

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Shrek,

17/06/2009 10:23:54
Difficult one this. I feel sorry for those who live there with the nightmare of whether they will be next, however, we as tax payer whether its local council tax or if its funded nationally can not afford the 20 million to fund the works assuming it would costs that amount
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heavensentmum,

17/06/2009 10:36:04
The findings of the report were on the BBBC news web site yesterday.

Confirms what most of us who have lived in the area have know for a long time, the homes should never have been built.

Having said that, someone in their wisdom gave planning permission and due to that decision the owners of the homes now find themselves in the predicament they are in.

Having spent over £30 million on the new road I find it hard to see how the Council can justify spending another £20 million plus on trying to go against what can only be classed as a natural occurrence.
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Scarborough UK on Twitter,

17/06/2009 11:33:54
I agree with Shrek, this is a difficult situation, however shouldn't the person(s) who allowed this development to be built be made to take some responsibility!?
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I see no ships,

17/06/2009 12:40:37
Pretty basic geology. slip faulting happens in boulder clay because cracks opened in summer drought fill with water in winter (which lubricates and causes slippage). The Cornelian area is a textbook example.

They must have been nuts!
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Souvarine,

17/06/2009 14:35:33
Re 4:
You ask:"shouldn't the person(s) who allowed this development to be built be made to take some responsibility!?"
This would be a novel concept within local government in Scarborough - it will probably happen the day after somebody within the Town Hall owns up to the debacle they've made of the North Bay redevelopment - ie, when pigs are seen flying over The Sands
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arcticmonkey,

17/06/2009 16:59:13
I feel for the residents here. Unless they had known Scarborough well before buying at Knipe Point they wouldn't have any idea of the problems. Some of us remember when it was a NALGO site, then it became Cayton Park Holiday Inn. That company cleared the site and sold off the wooden holiday cabins and also, if I remember rightly, cut down the trees bordering on Flley Road which had preservation orders on them. They ran the old Nalgo clubhouse as a cabaret bar for some time I believe.

Then came the development we are familiar with built in stages as holiday homes with year round occupancy prohibited and they were sold for something like £15,000 in the early 70's. The SBC always knew the site was iffy which is why it was for holiday use only. However, in their wisdom they decided to allow development to expand and the holiday use only restriction to be lifted. Whereupon the price shot up! Surprise, surprise.

Of course the bungalows should never have been built and used as permanent homes and SBC have a responsibility to those who now find themselves in danger of losing their homes. Is negligence too strong a word for what has happened here? It is possible that to pay compensation to the residents, and abandon the site to the forces of nature might be the most sensible and cost effective route rather than trying to stabilise the cliff.
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English like wot she is meant to be spoke,

17/06/2009 18:51:08
Time someone asked the question - how come these people were so daft in the first place as to buy properties at Knipe Point? Second homes or whatever, everyone in the town knew they were fated to drop into the sea sooner or later. More money than sense? Why are we all so concerned about them anyway? No one who actually lives in the town owns one of these doomed holiday homes do they?
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johnyorks61,

leeds 17/06/2009 20:28:45
To the above No8 saying that all residents are stupid buying at Knipe Point. We baught a house over there at alot of money, we had to get a local surveyer who told us that they were unaware of any landslips.We knew we wasent covered for coastal erosion. The main fault is at the beginning who knew there was a problem in the first place, so how .did they get planning permission
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Amaroo,

Scarborough 17/06/2009 23:00:33
It was ideal in its original concept of NALGO holiday camp.

It was certainly not ideal as a permanent residential site. How many houses are there from Knipe Point either way on the East side of Filey Road ?. That should have been a warning in itself. There are no properties northwards until you get down into the hollow for Cornelian Drive other than an odd house.

The question that needs answering is who within SBC gave planning permission for the development ?

Most locals know/knew that the land in that area was liable to slippage and it has been doing just that for years in dribs and drabs.

At the end of the day it most certainly does not warrant £20 million spending on it for a few properties. As sad as it maybe.

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